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Who is the biggest terrorist?
in United States
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[I don't agree with ISIS though.]
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America- Established it's country on genocide
ISIS-Spilled A LOT of blood to establish the islamic state.
America: 68+ wars in the 18th and 19th century alone . 31 more wars in the 20th century. 6 in the 21st
ISIS: Many, MANY battles, But no wars.
America: Stealing oil from multiple countries in the middle east.
ISIS: Hasn't stolen oil from anyone.
America: Torturing and captives and killing them in cuba secretly.
ISIS:Primitively beheading people
Not many differences between them.
When america kills,Steals[from],Drones innocent people no one can say a word.
But when the middle east fights back, America cries terrorist.
It's like this : The hypocrite who cried 'war on terrorism'
America is the leading terrorist, Look at Noam Chomskys works.
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in general, I disagree in your labeling of the US as terrorists and stealing oil. US has positive intentions in keeping peace. These wars cost us billions, and while it maybe an interesting conspiracy theory, pleasd demonstrate how we are getting our money back on our investment with that "stolen" oil.
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It's not a conspiracy theory, It's a fact they steal oil.
Did you ever read Noam Chomskys work?
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ISIS was established with the PURPOSE of committing genocide. But not just of one or a few groups of people, of ALL groups who conflict with their radical values, including moderate Muslims and other branches of Islam, Jews, Christians, and Western/modern nations. Saying America was built on genocide is also a blatant factual fallacy - I won't deny that the killing of Native Americans certainly should be considered genocide, but most of that occurred well before America was an established nation. The conflicts and relocations etc that occurred afterwards were similarly horrible, but not the basis for any cultural, political, or general identity that has ever/will ever define America.
Second fallacy: the comparison of something as superficial as a NUMBER of wars/battles in order to explain differences in terrorism. The number of wars and battles has nothing to do with terrorism! Terrorism is about the motivation, goals, and actions, not the statistic. There were so many beneficial wars that America fought in order to defend democracy and prevent the fall of perfectly fine nations. ISIS, on the other hand, has the GOAL of destroying even innocent nations (I won't call the US innocent) with brutal psychological terrorism. That is what they intend. They want to rape, kill, drown, torture, use intimidation tactics, commit genocide, and bring about the apocalypse...while America's actions have influenced this, that in NO WAY justifies the argument that America directly caused this and is therefore a larger terrorist than an organization that has clearly outlined genocidal and terrorist intent, and is currently carrying out those intentions.
Third fallacy: ISIS is indeed stealing oil. It took me two seconds to look it up and find thousands of articles about their oil smuggling schemes. Take a look: http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2014/09/09/346844240/how-the-islamic-state-smuggles-oil-to-fund-its-campaign
Again, I don't whole heartedly defend America, especially since Trump came into power. They have taken oil from Iraq. But the present political imbalance in the Middle East leaves very limited options for economic power and control...so would you rather that oil be in the hands of the United States, or in the hands of ISIS?
For the record...I can respect Noam Chomsky as an individual but I disagree with almost all of his ideas. The phrase "war on terrorism," for example, is not hypocritical because war and terrorism are different things. War can include acts of terrorism, but they are not synonymous in the slightest.
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@melanielust I'm not too sure if i'm a liberal. If something is dangerous for the country, I think we should try to prevent it. But Trump's methods, I just don't like.
And at this point i have no choice but to agree with you, I really would rather that oil in the hands of america. More than IS at least.
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But, I would like to further understand @logic points, and happy to hear he is agreeing with @melanielust about oil better with US than ISIS.
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What about if i gave it to a psychopath? He would bomb the twin towers. Bin laden was just crazy, You can't compare him with someone who speaks the truth.
And one question for everyone who reads this: Do you support america droning children in syria? Not even IS has went to those extremes.
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In one of Chomsky's latest articles, as he laments bin Laden's death he states that "80 commandos facing virtually no opposition" were involved in the raid. The total number of SEALs that were on the ground in bin Laden's compound were 25. That's one of his newer lies that isn't included in this list of top Chomsky lies.
Here's a question for you Logic, do you support IS's use of children to carry out suicide bombing attacks?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/isis-child-suicide-bomber-who-9695386
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/horrifying-isis-drone-video-shows-9821413
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4338508/Child-suicide-bomber-caught-Hazard-Chelsea-kit.html
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/worldnews/2426495/failed-suicide-bomber-15-reveals-ruthless-isis-camp-where-brainwashed-kids-are-trained-for-terror-missions/
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Why do you keep asking if i support IS?!?! I have said countless times i don't! Do you support syrian kids being droned for no reason? Answer the question.
Last links title 'Brainwashed kids' And you wonder where the terrorists come from.
From what i know: They start by telling them their families have been murdered by americans. [I have seen this in an clip of people interrogating isis members.]
Then, They twist verses of qur'an. For example
At this point they already hate america.
Also, You seem like you hate islam alot. What sources have you learned about islam from? I urge you to read the qur'an to purge any ignorance on this topic. I also gave a link [i think in another debate] of verses in the qur'an condemning what isis do.
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I have no problem with Islam as a religion. I vehemently disagree with it as a political movement, particularly since they blame so many of their own problems on the west.
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But IS lies to children when saying these things [most of the time]
But the US is ACTUALLY droning children. Under NO circumstances is this okay. Do you agree with that?
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/09/america-dropped-26171-bombs-2016-obama-legacy
Just what is this CYDdharta? This makes me sick to my stomach. When america invade iraq, And destroyed the country. They were war heroes in the eyes of americans, But when iraq fought back for THEIR OWN home! they were called terrorists, WHERE IS THE JUSTICE?!
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The use of military aggression as a means of imposing U.S. self righteous principles on others, can only be regarded as terrorism.
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"Americanism not Globalism, will be our credo." ~Donald Trump
"A communist is like a crocodile" ~Winston Churchill
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